Q.
In chapter 5 you explained the use of Graham's intrinsic value formula and
how it can be used to calculate implied growth rate. That formula uses an
8.5 figure that G&D uses but there is no explanation as to what it
means. What is it?
L.Z
A.
It
is a constant. Graham, apparently thought that a company with zero
earnings growth should have a P/E of 8.5. Why 8.5? I think it was a
rule of thumb, but I don't know how he came up with it.
Q. In
chapter 5 you explained the use of Graham's intrinsic value formula and
how it can be used to calculate implied growth rate. That formula uses AAA
bond rate and AAA bond yield. I could find the average AAA bond yield.
However, I am not sure what term AAA bond rate I should use?
D.B.
A. Graham
and Dodd were referring to long-term bond rates, which means 30-year
bonds. That is what is displayed at www.neatideas.com/aaabonds.htm.
Please keep in mind that the purpose of the
exercise is to give you a feeling for the growth expectations priced
into a stock, and wasn't meant to be calculated down to decimals. In
others words, is a stock price to grow earnings 10% or 50% annually --
not is it 21% or 25%.
Q. The chapter on financial fitness
is very timely in today's market. My question is how do you adjust the
score if the financial numbers are negative. For example test question
#10: Total liabilities/ EBITDA. If EBITDA is negative how do you score
this question? I am assuming -1 but I would appreciate your views as
this is an important one for the overall score.
C.H.
A. You can deal with negative numbers
in some tests. For instance the test that awards a point if operating
cash flow is greater than net income. If they are both negative, then
you can still award one point if the cash flow is less negative
(therefore greater) than net income.
However the Total Liabilities/EBITDA ratio
evaluates the firm's capability to service its debt. Negative EBITDA
means that it isn't generating any cash. If that condition persists, the
firm will not be able to service its debt. That's as bad or worse than
TL/EBITDA greater than 8, and thus requires deducting one point. You
should determine if the negative EBITDA is a short-term problem, or is
likely to persist. It's a big problem if you think negative EBITDA will
persist. In that instance, you should disqualify the stock.
Q. I'm frustrated! I've analyzed many
stocks following your procedures, and only two have earned scores of at
least four on your analyses scorecards (without the business plan
score). Most are between 0 and + 2. and few companies have return on
assets exceeding 14%. Also, regarding growth vs. value: Your cut-off is
Price to Sales of 2.5; but MSN Money does not always agree with that in
their Stock Rating section...what to do?...nearly impossible to build a
portfolio of 25-30 stocks.
G.K.
A. I know that I suggested
low P/S stocks in my value screen, but that is just a way to get a list
of stocks to analyze. The Step 1 (Analysts), Step 2 (Valuation) and Step
11 (Price Chart) grades are the main differentiators between value and
growth.
Step 1 should separate value from
growth.
The Sentiment indicator in Step 1
looks for negative sentiment to define value stocks and positive for
growth. Further, low year-over-year earnings forecasts define value
stocks, and high earnings growth forecasts indicate growth candidates.
A decreasing trend in earnings forecasts disqualifies growth
candidates, but is okay for value stocks.
Step 2 looks at Implied Growth
which reflects valuation ratios.
Value candidates should reflect
10% maximum implied growth looks for implied growth up to 40%.
Step 11 uses the price chart to
separate value from growth.
Value candidates should be below
or near their 200-day moving averages while growth stocks should be
above.
Use Steps 1, 2 and 11 to separate
growth from value. You are probably seeing low scores because you are
trying to analyze growth prospects as value, or vice-versa.
At this point in time, not many
stocks will score high, and that is the point. This a a terrible economy
and you you will not find many worthwhile stock candidates in this
market.
I suggest that you screen for high
ROA stocks, and use them for your initial candidates.
Q. What do you consider a good
"total score"? for growth and value stocks without the
business plan score - is four a buy?
G.K.
A. Regarding the scorecards, I
haven't gathered enough evidence to say, for instance, that three is
fail and four is pass. The scorecards are best used to compare
candidates, and to alert you to your candidate's weak points. Given all
that, I would say that not considering the business plan, four is okay,
but five or more would be better.
Q. In
your book you mention that no one is keeping track of changes of
management guidance. Is this still the case?
J.L.
A.
JL is referring to my statement that although changes in management's
sales and earnings forecasts (guidance) move share prices just as much as
earnings surprises, no website tracks those guidance changes. As far as I
know, that is still the case. Please advise me if you know
different.